Saturday, January 12, 2019

The Fred Litwin Challenge - Answer some basic questions

The Fred Litwin Challenge - Questions for the Who Accuse Lee Harvey Oswald of Killing JFK Alone 

Fred Litwin and a few other still speak for the conspiracy and insist Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy all by himself. So I challenge him and those who believe the cover-story to answer any of the following questions. If they can answer any one of these questions, it will be a great addition to our knowledge of the case, but I don't think they can, or will or even care.

1)      Why did Oswald order the rifle through the mail using an alias when he could have bought it at any sporting goods, department store, gun or pawn shop within walking distance of Dealey Plaza without any record of the transaction? (As John Hinkley and a co-worker did the day before the assassination).

2)      Why aren’t there any Post Office records of Oswald picking up the rifle and pistol on a day he was working at Jaggers/Chiles/Stoval, and why didn’t any PO employee recallhanding the rifle over the counter to him?

3)      If the rifle was kept in the heavy wool Russian blanket for months, why were there no fiber traces on the rifle?

4)      If the rifle was in the Paine garage until the morning of the assassination, and Oswald is not known to have ever fired it, how do you explain Robert Oswald’s statement that “If Lee did not practice with that rifle in the days and weeks before the assassination, he did not take the shots that killed the President and wounded Governor Connally?”

5)      If Oswald did not practice with that rifle or another rifle who was the person impersonating him at the rifle range, intentionally calling attention to himself by shooting at the targets of a doctor and his son? Who was that guy?

6)      If Oswald was definitely on the first floor at 12:15 pm, as witnesses claim, then who was on the sixth floor with a rifle at that time, as more than one witness on the street said?

7)      How come both witnesses who saw the sixth floor sniper said the shooter wore a white shirt (Oswald wore brown) and one of the witnesses said the shooter had a very distinguishing bald spot on the top of his head, an attribute not shared by Oswald?

8)      How come none of the four people on the steps or landings saw Oswald descend the on those steps to get to the second floor, where he was ninety seconds after the last shot?

9)      If Oswald was on the second floor two minutes after the last shot was fired, who was the man the court clerk across the street saw in the sniper’s window four minutes after the last shot was fired?

10)  If DPD Marion Baker saw Oswald through the window of the closed lunchroom door just after he had to come down those steps, how come Roy Truly didn’t see Oswald go through that door since he was a few steps and seconds ahead of Baker?

BONUS QUESTIONS

11)  How come there were no fingerprints on the rifle?

12)  Why did such an experienced homicide detective like Capt. Fritz pick up the shells from under the sniper’s window before they were photographed and then throw them back down in a random pattern?

13)  How come the rifle wasn’t immediately checked to see if it had been recently fired?

14)  How come there were no fingerprints on the rifle?

15)  Where did the bullets come from? You can’t buy single bullets, but like cigarettes, they come in packs and boxes. Where’s the rest of the pack?

16)  Where did the very unique leather strap on the rifle come from? It is a U.S. Air Force sidearm holster strap. Who did it belong to and why did Oswald use it on the rifle?

17)  How come the unspent .38 caliber bullets were not found in Oswald’s pockets the first time he was searched, but only discovered hours later? And where did the black leather scuff marks on them come from? A police holster?

18)  Where did the rifle and .38 caliber pistol bullets come from if Oswald didn’t purchase them?

19)  Over a dozen fingerprints were found on the boxes next to the sniper’s window – who did they belong to?

20)  Why wasn’t the brown paper said to have been used to wrap the rifle – photographed before it was removed?

21)  Why weren’t any fingerprints found on the brown paper bag?

22)  If Roy Truly gave Oswald a pass in the second floor lunchroom ninety seconds after the last shot, how come he was so suspicious of Oswald twenty minutes later, seeking his address from the front office and putting his name on the top of the list of missing employees he gave to Chief Lumpkin, who passed it on to Fritz?

23)  Why is there no record of what Fritz and Sheriff Bill Decker discussed in their meeting in Decker’s office immediately after Fritz inspected the evidence in the Texas School Book Depository?

24)  Why wasn’t D. H. Byrd, owner of the Texas School Book Depository required to testify or even questioned by the Dallas police, FBI or Warren Commission?

25)  If Brennan was so sure about being able to identify the sixth floor sniper if he saw him again, how come he didn’t notice Oswald walk out the front door and pass him, as he did identify the black guys from the fifth floor window as they left?

26)  Why did Oswald get on the Getaway Bus going back to the scene of the crime, and why did he offer his cab to an old lady if he was a criminal murderer escaping the scene?

27)  If Oswald did fire the shots that killed the President and Officer Tippit, how come everyone he encountered afterwards – Baker and Truly, the secretary in the second floor office, the cab driver, even the cops who interrogated him, said he was cool, calm and collected, and not nervous or hyperventilating as someone who had just killed someone would have been? The police interrogators also said they believed Oswald had been trained in interrogation techniques, so where did he learn that? 


How come the Hosty note Oswald wrote to the FBI, Oswald's military file and the Secret Service advance reports were all intentionally destroyed after the assassination?


How come SS Agent Hill, the closest agent to the victims, and all of the Parkland doctors and nurses described a large grapefruit sized wound to the back of JFK's head, a wound that is not depicted on the Bethesda autopsy photos or x-rays?

How come when the Bethesda autopsy photographer and x-ray tech were show the results of their work they denied taking those photos and x-rays, and the photographer even said they used a different type of film? What happened to the original photos and x-rays they took?











28 comments:

  1. Robert Oswald however had no doubt his brother shot and killed JFK

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    1. Thank you Patrick Collins for taking up the challenge and at least trying to answer some of these basic questions - However, the quote from Robert is from his book LEE - and he DID have doubts or he wouldn't have written that. His public stance was for his safety and the safety of his family as he had no doubt as to what happened to his kid brother.

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    2. Robert Oswald stated, unequivocally and on film, that his brother was the assassin. Are you saying this was just a "public stance" for his safety? If so, you're also saying in his book he expressed doubts, but books tend to be "public" also, so you're contradicting yourself.

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    3. Hay Vinnie, welcome to the fray. In his book "Lee" Robert Oswald wrote: "If Lee did not practice with that rifle in the days and weeks before the assassination he did not take the shots that killed President Kennedy and wounded governor Connally." - I think its page 288. Did you read the book? The Warren Commission said he didn't practice with that rifle or ever shoot it before. Robert also expressed serious suspicions of Ruth and Michael Paine, and rightfully so.

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    4. Where does the Warren Commission say that? No one knows for sure if he practiced or not, or if he just did dry runs. Robert Oswald was entitled to his opinion; it still doesn't prove anything. If he didn't practice, were those exceptionally good (or lucky) shots? Probably so, but the overwhelming evidence is he *did* make the shots.

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    5. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/interview-robert-oswald/

      In your mind, are there questions about whether Lee shot President Kennedy?

      There is no question in my mind that Lee was responsible for the three shots fired, two of the shots hitting the president and killing him. There is no question in my mind that he also shot Officer Tippit. How can you explain one without the other? I think they’re inseparable. I’m talking about the police officer being shot and the president. You look at the factual data, you look at the rifle, you look at the pistol ownership, you look at his note about the Walker shooting. You look at the general opportunity — he was present. He wasn’t present when they took a head count [at the Texas School Book Depository].

      You look at all the data there, and it comes up to one conclusion as far as I’m concerned — the Warren Commission was correct.

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    6. In your mind, but you can't answer the outstanding questions. But not the minds of 80 percent of the people, and most of those who know something about the facts and evidence. And the Tippit murder was connected to the framing of Oswald, especially the presence of Carl Mather's Plymouth with Oswald or someone resembling him behind the wheel, and Mather's alibi - at work at Collins Radio, which brings the whole anti-Castro JMWAVE raiders into the picture. Thank you for bringing this up. For those who want to know more about the Collins Radio Connections they at JFKCountercoup.blogspot.com

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  2. These are rank amateur entry level questions and some are based on supposition.

    Timings are not typically accurate to the minute when it comes to people and memory.

    It is possible that Oswald was in fact in the lunchroom area at 12:10 and appeared in the 6th floor window at 12:20 for 2 minutes.

    And in fact because the evidence against Oswald is so strong, then I would suggest that is what happened.

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    1. Rank and amateur entry level questions that have not been adequately answered. Baker and Truly re-ran their route and it came to ninety seconds - not memory but accurate. The evidence against Oswald is nill - the rifle - that's it. You convince me the evidence is strong, but you can't.

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  3. Ref Brennan, ok well let us consider the possibility that he was looking in another direction when Oswald left the building.

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    1. He was leaning on a police car at the bottom of the steps - and did notice the black guys. Didn't notice the shooter leave the building when Oswald did because Oswald was not the shooter in the white shirt and bald spot. Who was THAT guy?

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    3. There are all sorts of possible reasons Brennan didn't notice Oswald. Maybe, as Patrick Collins stated, he temporarily looked elsewhere. It happens--people look around. Maybe he just wasn't expecting the assassin to come waltzing out the front door, so he mentally discounted the possibility that he would see that and it didn't register when it happened. This, like many of your questions, assumes that human behavior has to occur in some sort of predictable pattern, but it doesn't. For every one of your questions, I could come up with ten along the lines of "If there was a conspiracy, why didn't *this* happen??"

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  4. This is such a silly question

    "Why weren’t any fingerprints found on the brown paper bag?"

    The paper bag did not construct itself did it, the paper HAD to handled by humans at some point.

    That it had no finger prints on it means nothing.


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    1. But if Oswald's fingerprints were on the paper and the rifle, then THAT would mean something, wouldn't it?

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    2. "Two police officers, Lieutenant Joseph Mooney and Officer Arthur Mandella, and one FBI special agent, Sebastian F. Latona, concluded that a fingerprint and a palmprint found on the long bag belonged to Lee Harvey Oswald. (4H50-1, 14H745, 4H19) Special agent Latona explained the relevance of a palmprint by stating,
      Mr. LATONA. . . .Cartons like this, where you have to use both hands to pick it up because of its weight, the probability is that you will get a palmprint as well as a fingerprint.
      Mr. EISENBERG. Would the same thing be true of a heavy rifle?

      Mr. LATONA. Sure, very definitely.

      Mr. EISENBERG. And if the bag contained a heavy object inside?

      Mr. LATONA. That is right (4H44-5).

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  5. Here is another pearler....

    "If Roy Truly gave Oswald a pass in the second floor lunchroom ninety seconds after the last shot, how come he was so suspicious of Oswald twenty minutes later"

    Well let me see, because Roy Truly was part of a plot to kill JFK...?

    Or it just happened that way....

    By the way it could have been a full 2 minutes before the Baker Oswald encounter. We do not know it was 90 seconds...

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    1. I never accused Truly as being part of any plot. There was NO PLOT, not by Oswald or anybody. It was a PLAN. How could Truly NOT see Oswald if he went through the door a few seconds before Baker saw him on the other side of the door? Because he entered the lunchroom the same way he left with a coke - through the secretary office. And we know for a fact it was 90 seconds because Baker and Truly reenacted their movements, not from memory.

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    2. ""If Roy Truly gave Oswald a pass in the second floor lunchroom ninety seconds after the last shot, how come he was so suspicious of Oswald twenty minutes later"

      Maybe because when he first ran into Oswald, there was an expectation that the shooter was still upstairs on the 6th floor. 20 minutes later, no shooter had been found and Oswald had long vanished, so he was being seen in a different light ... ?

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  6. You ask

    how come everyone he encountered afterwards – Baker and Truly, the secretary in the second floor office, the cab driver, even the cops who interrogated him, said he was cool, calm and collected, and not nervous or hyperventilating as someone who had just killed someone would have been?

    You have no idea how some people could behave in such a situation and in fact your contention that everyone thought that is not correct.

    His ex landlady on the bus though he looked very nervous and bedraggled.....

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    1. If you shot somebody in the head and killed them and ran down four flights of steps in 90 seconds, you would be breathing heavy and hyperventilating, unless you were a first class trained sniper like Amos Heacock. Marina said when Oswald returned from the Walker shooting he was still hyperventilating hours later. His ex landlady tried to hide her face from him, as they didn't like each other. She kicked him out for having a fight with Ruby and wrecking furniture - if you believe that DPD police report. Oswald's interrogators said they believe he was trained in interrogation and counter-interrogation techniques - who trained him in that?

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    2. Where is the sworn testimony by Marina Oswald where she states Oswald was "hyperventilating"? Not her WC testimony:

      "Mrs. OSWALD. No, I didn't understand anything. On the note it said, "If I am arrested" and there are certain other questions, such as, for example, the key to the mailbox is in such and such a place, and that he left me some money to last me for some time, and I couldn't understand at all what can he be arrested for. When he came back I asked him what had happened. He was very pale. I don't remember the exact time, but it was very late. And he told me not to ask him any questions. He only told me that he had shot at General Walker.
      Of course I didn't sleep all night. I thought that any minute now, the police will come. Of course I wanted to ask him a great deal. But in his state I decided I had best leave him alone it would be purposeless to question him."

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    3. Oswald was most likely a violent sociopath. They don't have the same emotional reactions as everyone else.

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    4. BTW, going *down* four flights of steps will not make someone get out of breath, unless they're extremely unfit.

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  7. Ref the bus, he got on a bus that was taking him to his rooming house so it would go back in the direction of where he worked.

    His decision to do so many not appear to be rational with hindsight, but as Oswald would almost certainly have been in a situation he never expected to be in - his chances of pulling it all of were probably slim one cannot expect everything he did to make sense.

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  8. Everything Oswald did made sense. Nothing he did was irrational. He certainly was in a situation he never expected to be in - the fall guy scapegoat and patsy for the murder of the president. Don't stop now Patrick, more questions are coming.

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  9. Having just shot the president, it seems the most pressing concern would be to just get out of sight and away from the area. The bus served that purpose, or appeared to until it got bogged down in traffic. *Where* the bus was going was probably secondary.

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  10. First off, He didn't just shoot the President, and realized that he was being framed as the Patsy, as he claimed, and he acted in that regard.

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